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2025-05-06 Synthetic Photography SIG meeting notes
We met online using ZOOM 6:00pm-9:00pm
You are invited to join us on ZOOM for the "Synthetic Photography SIG". I expect that this will be a controversial SIG as the topic of AI generated art seems to polarize people into 2 camps, they either love the concept that now they can make beautiful art or they hate the idea that "unskilled" people can make better art than they can. I am sure that we will have different views, but I hope that we can get along and respect everyone's views. I want to expand the focus of the Synthetic Photography SIG to include other image editing tools and techniques while maintaining our main focus on AI tools and techniques.
"I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It" - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (not Voltaire)
ATTENDEES
Mike Barry
Ken Eis
Jim Fellion
Jim Limburg
Rich Roberts
Albert Wang
1. We discussed the "Talking Baby Podcast".
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FiwjzX6Yp/
2. We discussed Mark Bolle's self portrait that he generated with AI.
3. We discussed "Will A.I. Kill Photography? Artificial intelligence will change everything". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d05f6uaxAZI
It looks like product photography, advertising photography and abstract photography will probably be mainly generated by AI in the future. Anything where a record of existence is required, like weddings, sport events, and disaster pictures will remain in the photography domain rather than generative AI. The photography hobby will exist as long as there are people that get a sense of personal satisfaction from taking pictures, people that are looking for external validation will tend towards generative AI.
4. We discussed 8 Ways AI Can Help You Every Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLAdeuEMnbg
5. We discovered that we can ask ZOOM to summarize out meeting, and I have attached the results to the end of the notes.
6. We discussed "Stanford Creativity Expert: This Simple Shift will 10x Your AI Creativity" by Jeremy Utley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv779vmyPVY
7. We discussed "Idiocracy is Becoming Real" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtDWDWY_7Bc
8. We discussed "AI is Making You Dumber. Here's Why" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqVhUX4Vel8
9. Please create at least one image using AI tools that is wall-worthy for the next meeting.
RESOURCES (Where you can find sources of inspiration)
The Arguments Against AI Art Generators Are Bad Arguments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gnRquxKp3E
Will AI replace human jobs and make universal basic income necessary? Here's what AI leaders have said about UBI. https://www.businessinsider.com/universal-basic-income-ai
Your Opinions... Are No Longer Yours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir4jUM0kpn4
AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT SYNTHETIC PHOTOGRAPHY SIG MEETING - Tue 6/3/2025 @6:00pm
1. Discuss Wall-Worthy images and other images that we have created with AI or editing tools.
2. Discuss questions, ethics, techniques, what is happening with AI in general
3. Decide what we want to do at the next meeting
If there is anything related to AI that you would like to discuss at our SIG meeting, please email me so I can add them to our agenda.
Please email Mike, info@fcdcc.com, when you find mistakes, missing information or if you have suggestions for the Synthetic Photography SIG and I will try to address the issues.
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Meeting summary with AI Companion now supports additional languages in preview.
Meeting summary for FCDCC Synthetic Photography Zoom Meeting (05/06/2025)
Quick recap
The team discussed various applications of AI technology, including its use in meeting transcription, coding assistance, and everyday tasks, as well as its potential impact on education and critical thinking skills. They also explored concerns about the overreliance on AI and its potential negative consequences, such as the decrease in problem-solving abilities and critical thinking skills. The conversation ended with discussions on payment methods, AI-powered glasses, and the use of AI in different professions.
Next steps
• Mike: Share notes and links to videos about arguments against AI generators for next week's discussion • Team: Review how to properly use Zoom's AI companion feature and prepare appropriate prompts for the next meeting's summary generation • Team: Turn on AI transcription at the beginning of the next meeting to test the feature's full capabilities • Team: Review and test the meeting transcription feature at the end of the next meeting to evaluate its effectiveness
Summary
AI Technology and Its Applications
The team discusses various aspects of AI technology and its applications. They explore the use of AI for meeting transcription and summarization, with Albert sharing an example of how it works in their current meeting. Mike mentions an app that can generate meeting minutes with action items. The conversation then shifts to the potential errors and limitations of AI, including a recent incident where an AI-generated legal document contained fabricated case studies. Albert shares an anecdote about using AI for coding assistance, highlighting its benefits and the need for human oversight. The group also touches on the monetization of AI products and the challenges of debugging AI-generated code.
AI Applications in Coding and Meetings
The group discusses various applications of AI in coding and everyday tasks. Jim Limburg shares his experience using ChatGPT to write Excel macros, highlighting its effectiveness for modular coding. The team explores AI's ability to summarize articles, rewrite text for different reading levels, and condense YouTube videos. They also discover that Zoom's AI transcription feature has been active during their meeting, providing summaries and catching key discussion points. The group decides to intentionally use this feature from the start of their next meeting to test its capabilities fully.
AI Applications and Creative Solutions
The group discusses various aspects of AI and its applications. Mike shares insights from a Stanford creativity expert on how to effectively use AI, including treating it as a teammate and coaching it to produce better results. He suggests using AI to handle dreaded tasks, such as paperwork, citing an example of a Park Ranger who saved significant time by creating an AI tool to fill out forms. The conversation also touches on AI's ability to answer technical questions, rephrase emails, and generate multiple creative solutions. The group briefly discusses concerns about camera security and hacking before returning to the topic of AI's potential in various fields.
AI's Impact on Education and Critical Thinking
The group discusses the impact of AI and technology on education and critical thinking skills. Jim shares an anecdote about his son's experience teaching in Nepal, where students used AI to complete assignments. The conversation then shifts to the broader implications of relying on technology, such as calculators and GPS, for basic tasks. Mike introduces the concept of cognitive load theory, explaining how overreliance on AI and technology can lead to a decrease in problem-solving abilities and critical thinking skills. The group expresses concern about the potential long-term consequences of this trend, particularly in education and everyday life skills.
AI's Impact on Society and Education
In the meeting, Mike expressed concerns about the potential negative impact of AI on society, particularly in the context of education. He suggested that AI could lead to a society that cannot think for itself. Rich and Albert discussed the possibility of using AI tools to write papers, with Albert noting that the output might not be identical for different users. The group also discussed the potential for AI to contribute to dementia, with Mike citing a statistic that over 50% of people living to the age of 85 will have Alzheimer's disease pathology. The conversation ended with a discussion about the need to hear perspectives from younger people on the use of AI.
Payment Methods and AI Concerns
The group discusses various issues related to payment methods and AI technology. They talk about businesses refusing cash or credit cards due to fees, with some small businesses preferring cash to avoid credit card charges. The conversation then shifts to AI-powered glasses and their potential impact on learning and privacy. Jim mentions Meta's glasses for low-vision individuals, which can read menus and identify objects. The group expresses concerns about overreliance on AI tools potentially reducing critical thinking skills. Mike shares examples of facial recognition software misidentifying suspects, leading to wrongful arrests in Detroit. The discussion highlights the importance of human judgment alongside AI technology.
AI Usage in Business and Life
The meeting covers various topics related to AI, including its use in business and everyday life. Mike shares that 88% of Gen Z reportedly use AI for their jobs, though Albert questions the validity and scope of this statistic. The group discusses the concept of "model collapse" in AI and concerns about AI feeding into future AI training data. They also touch on the use of AI tools like r1 and debate the extent to which different professions actually utilize AI. The conversation concludes with attempts to generate a meeting summary using Zoom's AI companion feature.
AI-generated content may be inaccurate or misleading. Always check for accuracy.
(Thanks go to Jim for providing the ZOOM meeting results)
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Thanks,
Mike
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